The Voices for Voices Podcast Episode 29 with Guest, Allison Rose Clark from Australia
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level today I am joined by Allison Rose Clark
a resident of New South Wales Australia which is very close to Sydney Australia
she has been an inspiration to many in overcoming Abuse and Mental Health
challenges I met Allison Rose Clark I believe it was in 2019 before Voices for Voices
became an organization I met her on LinkedIn we chatted I read
her book which she'll get to in our conversation and her book as well as chatting with
her and overcoming what she has and wanting to also help others regardless
of if we're in Northeast Ohio and Hudson or if we're thousands of miles away on
another continent and so what I was able to do because of the time change and
and trying to sync up well when I could get in studio and when the time
was convenient for Allison was a taped a zoom conversation with her so
we're going to go ahead and check that out thanks again for joining us I can't be
more happy to again be joined by Allison Rose Clark she's coming to us from New
South Wales Australia which is closer to I think the eastern coast of Australia
so yeah so to get the timing to match up
we thought that doing a zoom interview would be the best to make sure that we're not catching each other in
the middle of the night so Allison Rose thank you again for joining us on
the Voices for Voices podcast thank you very much for having me and inviting me it's a pleasure
yeah and for our audience our viewers our listeners
I met virtually Allison Rose back in I guess it'll be 2019 as I was starting
to think about the Voices for Voices event how Voices for Voices started
with having a once a year event where individuals could share their stories no
matter where they're at in in the world no matter what their gender
some may you know be able to do music some may be able to do art some can
do through the spoken word Etc. and so I came across Allison Rose profile
and background and experience and stories and she has a very powerful
experiences which she's going to she's going to get into and very raw so you're going to
hear raw emotions raw experiences and
again with the organization Voices for Voices we want to and we are
especially by coming back around here by bringing Allison Rose back to our audience want to share
her story her courageous story and she and her story is really one of the
underpinnings of me wanting to really take the Voices for Voices event and
turn it into the organization so how soon you want to get started by maybe
just talking about kind of maybe like the down part of you know the
beginning of your story yes sure
so yes, I am from the east side of
New South Wales in a place called Lake illawar and I have lived here all my life
so do you want me to start from the very
beginning of my life no you know just kind of like the rougher yeah
yeah kind of going through your book yeah
yeah okay so when I was eight I was sexually assaulted by my cousin
and then I experienced bullying at school and after that I left school
I got married that turned out to be an
abusive marriage the second marriage is our married again second marriage was also abusive
and my third marriage is was also abusive and it included
spiritual abuse in that one as well as the other kinds of abuse that he
experience and then I wrote my book decided that I was going to help
women predominantly learn to love themselves again because it was some you know like a an epiphany
where I you know where I thought just one day saying why do I find myself
in these situations why do I like let people treat me like
crap and it just dawned on me is like I
didn't love myself I hated myself I would allow people to treat me that way but because I wouldn't treat my myself
that way I was looking for punishment for I guess
for my own guilt insert in certain parts of my life that I blame myself for which I know now
that aren't my fault but I still felt that feel that when we
put so I went through this Journey
of just wanting to guide people women predominantly into
how to love themselves again and therefore have the more ability and confidence and
strength to reduce to reject sorry abuse and that abuse doesn't just stop with
relationships that is also family friends that may treat you in the same manner
that you don't realize until you go through my book
as one of the one of the guides for showing people that
so my book is called I do not hate me anymore
love yourself completely without compromising.
it is a reprint of the original book which is I'd
I don't hate me anymore 12 steps you'd never knew you needed so it's yeah being reprinted
for various reasons that are not really relevant but
yes, led me to having to do that so
do you want to show the copy just so everybody can see yeah sure
the old one so my old one
use pink color pink purple with yellow leaves and yellow writing
which yellow is it has a meaning the yellow
is sorry energy and brightness
strength the purple represented um
royalty so the importance of yourself that you are important
deep be dragonfly represented you
stands for you and the web is representing life so the whole meaning
of the cover is you have the strength to break through the Troubles of life
so yeah then the second copy because
I had to change a few things for the reasons why I had to get it reprinted is
now and I'm not sure you can really see but it's there's a green there's still a
bit of purple but it's as close as I could possibly get to the original
so now yeah and that's when I changed the actual title to I don't hate me
anymore love yourself completely without compromising yes, I love it I have the first
version I'm going to have to get a hold of the second copy
and thank you for going into the depth not just on the cover and in
the meeting because I think that's sometimes you got to gets lost and translation just you know with so many
self-published authors out there and just trying to make a buck or two the
you know the thought that really does go into the cover is Meaningful and
so thanks for that explanation and go on into that about
getting the book written and some of the experiences I know there
wasn't a particular and maybe there was I don't think so but I I'm just going to ask
so I'm not assuming that there was maybe one time one
experience that led you to one to
share with women share with people the they are valued that not take
what people say at face value even though it's tough and even though you're
living those experiences day to day was there a particular experience
where you said okay now I'm going to get started and now I know what path I
want to go into or where they're kind of just maybe just a series of things in your mind and you started to go down
that path of sharing and a catharsis of venting a little bit which I know very
well my myself can you maybe discuss that a little bit
okay well there isn't really one sort of moment where I just went
nobody like you know didn't take everything personal I did it took me a long time I would
take what people said to me as a personal attack and
since my mental health was not diagnosed back then I used to go off and with the scale
basically and a lot of people decided they
thought I was scary that I was unpredictable and they had to walk
around on eggshells around me which is probably true or a part of it
but it was a long journey so I did
workshops and some groups around domestic violence
around personal growth to improve my own sense of being and value on worth
I also tried the
quotes and inspirational things
but they main thing that really hit me
was when I was sitting out the back of my with my
house that I'd shared with my third husband and that's when I swear I said to
myself why is this happening why am I allowing people to treat this and that's the key is why am I allowing
people to treat me like this and of then I just went perfect
because I hate myself and I allow people to treat me like that
because it's a form of punishing myself not that I sat there and thought hey I'm going to punish myself by
letting people treat me like a doormat.
it is because subconsciously I thought I deserved it
and that that goes way back to when my cousin sexually abused me so that's the
win it or all that I hate myself to huge being allowing people to treat me like
dirt too to withdraw to not speak up
and that just guide me through adult Court until
2018 when I was finally diagnosed with
their third major depression
and in 2014 after 14 years of this medication and still being
up and down with my emotions where I would be really happy one minute like
telling everyone I know yeah text messages vocals I'm loving I love
you and you mean so much to me too just down where I wanted to just die and
but I didn't want to diet my own hands, but I wanted to die and I bet to let me wake up day
but you can wake up did but you know in the spirit world you wake up and not realize you're dead
so that's what I mean by that and when I got finally diagnosed with
everything it was bipolar I had a panic disorder an OCD
and yeah I can't remember my own diagnosis it's
like too many so I was put on these medications
which helped and from then on so it's only been since 2014 to now which is six
seven eight six seven eight nine years that
I have had my mental health in check stable with the
correct medications yeah and I'm not scary anymore to people
so yes, which is great of course no one
likes to be scary but I didn't really actually know that I was all those things until later I actually thought
all that was normal that that everybody felt this way we're now
Angry that you know I just thought I was normal I
didn't know anything different yeah so when I found out all those things that really hurt my feelings and
I was really upset and but now you can bring something up to me
and say hey how are you you've done you know you hurt my feelings back there
and I'll go oh I'm so sorry I didn't mean that and I can explain myself or
I apologize and I apologize I always own up to my own mistakes not a you know big
deal I am not going to die I am not going to I'm just going to be honest and
hold my Integrity to people yeah
very one word I'm thinking of is very brave
to and whether the storm not just of the experiences them themselves but
as you're working through your mental health and yep there and I guess I'll speak for my
my experience of finding it on my 30s my diagnosis a major impression and
anxiety and low Spectrum autism the there was more than a fair share of
people that were like oh well if you weren't diagnosed with autism.
when you were little then you know what how valid is that diagnosis now in
your in your 30s so just all that to say that not
everything happens in a straight line not everything happens whether it's a diagnosis or relationships it's not
always everything's great and I can attest to those
ups and downs as well of things are going great I love what I'm
doing I love these things and these specific areas and having these
conversations and all the things happening with the organization and then there's
literally stopping on a dime like don't want to get out of bed just want to sleep and
so recovery it's not a straight line and it's not something that happens
overnight and it is not something that
is cured but let alone okay on
January 3rd, 2023, I was cured of these particular
ailments and I think that's been a big struggle that I've had
working with people and just letting them know my background somewhere like oh that you're
being way too upfront about all this like you should maybe you know take a take a step back and not share so
much but I can I like you once you're all into something
I find that that's the best way to be when you have that emotional
attachment to what you're doing that when you wake up in the morning you're
more than bought in because of Reason a b and c
you're bought in also on that emotional side to say you know what yeah things are going to get tough and you know
maybe I'm burned out today but I know tomorrow or next week when I regroup
because I'm passionate because it the things I'm working on are so tied to me
emotionally so that long-winded response to say not just the
experiences you've been through but that kind of mental health up and down that it’s hard and I think
to hear your perspective about it and medication changes and you know years
go by and diagnosed diagnosis changes
those are all those are those are all tough things to go through it's not just like going to the you
know going to the doctor and saying okay stay off your leg for a week or you know wear this cast for two weeks you
know it's it it's with you everywhere you go it's when you're resting when you wake up in the morning and when you
eat your meals if like me I didn't want to eat for a period of time that my
body was rejecting in food and so thank you for being so candid with
with those experiences you know somebody to you know might be watching
or listening is going to be inspired by you and so if those individuals
are at that point of you know this is a this is enough I am going to start going
down a different path and I'm going to take little steps in in a different direction to hopefully you
know help my Outlook what maybe ideas do you have of getting started
I I know writing a book doesn't just happen overnight you know what are what are maybe some of the things you
did kind of early on in in that building in into the book that somebody
could you know look at dawn and not think that it's overbearing to get started
okay the build up to my book was
when I found when I realized that I hated myself I started sticking up for
myself even though I was in an abusive relationship my life wasn't in danger
so I was able to do that if someone's listening and they have
these a profoundly serious domestic violence
I wouldn't recommend taking this straight up that just making sure that
you go and get some help and make a plan
and move that way but if they're not like myself I
wasn't in it in that position so I started putting that into action so I
would stand up for myself so when he's told me that you know but you know I can't cook for instance he said I couldn't cook but because I
didn't follow a recipe that I was the stupid and you know one minute he's
saying it's a great man on the next minute he's saying it's not so I would turn around and say well no it is good
everybody else liked it you're just wanting to complain about something
another time was when he tried to use the Bible against me I'm saying that you can learn to
love and I said yes I know that and he said there's no nowhere in the Bible that says
that you know marriages weren't based on love back then and I said the
majority of them I agree but there's one with Ruth and Obed where it wasn't like that
it was love and so God has given us an example of yes
even though you can love someone learn to love them it also
you can they have to also love you and it's count doesn't have to be earnings
an overtime thing where you're forced to be in that situation but something where you can
just you know instantly fall in love with someone or over you
know a couple of weeks and you fall into love with them but it's usually you know it's
pretty much instantly inside well you know that's what I turned
around and said to him where he got angry because of that because he
couldn't come back at me with anything and so I learned to stand up for myself
and but that yes so
yeah, standing up for yourself so basically I went back and tried to figure out
where it all started where that route is in my life that's keeping me where it
all started so you know I started to feel guilty and hate myself and
you know hang around people who would abuse me and not stand up for myself
that started when I was eight you know I started hating wearing glasses for
instance because people would start picking me on me about my glasses, so I was self-conscious about how I looked
so that's where I went back and that's probably the first step that I would
recommend people is to find out where it started if possible because no you know a lot of people may not be able to find
that but if we can to go back and see where it all started
and how it's affected your life your choices because everything your
perception of what's happening to you is the main thing not whether someone's intention was
food or bad it's an it's how you perceive it so how you perceive it
really influences the decisions you make
from there so yeah so that's what and that's how I
started my book as well is that's where I started and then I worked through steps and
when I wrote my book I did them in those steps so even though I had all this experience
with Scouts counseling and tools and stuff
I was still in this position where I hated myself so all
those things on their own inspirational books and stuff that I read they really didn't give me
any idea where to start or how to get that in my life I could see how they do
it but in my life it's different I can't you know their methods don't necessarily
work in my life so that's where I started my book with
[Music] down and out is the title of the first chapter which is
yeah aimed at finding out where you started and where it is that you
began your down and out
walk through life and adult life so yes you do not have to it's not something that you necessarily think about and I know
people say don't look at the past just forget it it's in the past but some
things in your past you can't just leave there you have to look at it you have to deal with it and you and in the sense of
How It's hurt you and find some way of forgiving yourself
for blaming yourself
and then yes so do not
I've lost track of my conversation which is another thing that I
attempt to go through due to my mental health issues and my psychological
techniques when I was little to survive
based I used to blank my mind and try and not hear the
voices in like my own voice in my head so that I could Escape reality basically so
it's a little bit like disassociation but just where you can't hear your
thoughts they're there you can't stop them but I can't hear them I can't don't know what they're saying
well so yes in those stressful moments like
these now it's just a it's like my brain's got this habit and it's really hard to break I'm trying to
I'm working really hard on that yeah I'm sorry everyone
you are doing
getting started and believing in yourself are very hard and as you
know and that's something I would agree with you is for me and
my mental health that was accepting that I couldn't
kind of cure myself I couldn't cure things in the past I couldn't I couldn't
do things on my own and from kind of flip side of being a male of you
know you're not supposed to cry you're supposed to be able to handle everything and you know what why are why
are you upset and you know get out of bed and some of those things are
were hard and that's part that
I know with me getting to the point of accepting hey I need help isn't kind of
the first thing that usually goes through anybody's mind because I thought I was able to do everything on my own with you know very little mediation from a doctor and
so 35 years in to life of finding that okay am I going to accept where I'm
at and go from the me philosophy to the we with the team is huge and for
anybody out there that is you know in the kind of influx not sure
yeah not sure if they should talk to somebody or see somebody I can't make
that decision for you Allison can't make that decision for you we're not
trained professionals to do that what we would just say is kind of
take to kind of in the inventory of where you're at like or are you in
a healthy relay relationship not just with others but with yourself
I was in a very toxic relationship with myself of
substance and alcohol abuse that I couldn't even think about somebody else
if it wasn't if I couldn't think of myself if I couldn't take care of my
own cell so I know Society likes for us to always look at others as always
the problem and sometimes that that's the case but when we kind of look
inside to Allison's point of okay this isn't right what what's really
going on here and I'm going to stand up for myself she's starting to take
that self-worth and say look I'm not going to be a doormat I'm not going to
be walked over the I am a human being and I am worthy of being a human and
not like somebody you know talk to the sparrow
Gene and negative and just let that let that happen so that that's where I
kind of go back to that term Brave it's Brave to go through those experiences and it's super Brave to come
out on the other side and not even take it the super Brave to talk about it and publish a book and come on
a podcast like hours and others that you've been on and
sharing so much of what you what you've been through and how you're really
overcoming as much as we can as human beings because we know that we are not
going to kind of be cured from the mental side of things and that we are going to
have to just you know we are going to do the best we can, and we are going to we're going to go
that route I think just to your point also I'm just being cognizant of you
know whether and I've had you know the time where the you know the voices or the thoughts like Justin you should do
this or no don't do that that's not fun and I like you and lucky to be at a
point where I'm able to get above that a little bit whether that's the therapy whether that's the medication
what whatever that is but that is when I can almost imagine that
you feel the most productive where you're not kind of battling yourself in internally of should I do
this or shouldn't I and what do the people think and you're really able to get above that as much as you can and
and you're gone day to day and you're sharing you're coming on the this
this podcast you're sharing with a TV audience and an audio audience and video and people are going to read
about this as well as the other podcasts you've been on and I hope to this propels you
even more can you just describe the feeling of kind of being above some
of that noise of how that makes you feel versus where
you're just constantly like battling and like 10 minutes goes by and you're like I don't know where that 10 minutes went
because I was kind of in that in my mind in my head battling myself of should I
do this or shouldn't I whereas now and more out of not times you're
just doing it and you're just continuing on yeah well yes I agree you're not
going to totally cure yourself you will have episodes of mental
health issues because the medication is only part of it it's not the be all and
end or you know I take a tablet and it's all gone it doesn't work that way
and the same with the consequences of other people's actions the abuse that
you have experienced the damage it's left doesn't
it doesn't necessarily go you're still going to have reactions
have those things come up every now and then and if you have post-traumatic stress
disorder and that is exactly what is going to happen to you is this
little and that's what the other thing that I couldn't remember before is prostrate post-traumatic stress disorder
so where I went through a phase as a kid
I was really scared of any male and any person going in the same you
know Direction on the same side of the street as me especially if it was a man
when I was when I was a young adult I couldn't even walk to the bar because it felt like
that the men were out to hurt me someone's going to notice me and
they're going to want to hurt me even when I had my license I used to
think people were following me I mean just things like that would trigger
and one other time that triggered was with my second husband and he bought me some lingerie you know sexy lingerie
and that triggered me I couldn't move it's like I just went I can't do I
can't do it's I can't wear it it's just I might not try out and I just couldn't you know and I couldn't get through that
so I got into you know take it back and sort
it for something else but yes that is what is going to happen like
people are going to have that but to remember that that's just
a not a relapse so much as um
as you're just having an episode, so it doesn't mean that it's not working
it just means you have to go back to somewhere part of the
to a certain part of the journey and just go from there back
through it to work through that bit so that may be a cycle that you go through
times you know and you may not you might be you know you might have all
that down pat you may be able to bring it just like that by using it
around just by using tools that you've got and that's fantastic if you can do
that it's awesome since my third husband I have
you know really been doing this stuff and last year I did have
a huge mental health relapse or in that relapse episode which
lasted the majority of the year there were things that
triggered all that which didn't help but now I'm back to where if I think
something negative I'm able to turn it around straight away like if I say I'm ugly
I can turn around and say no you're not you're not ugly you know one of the
things I told my friend a while ago was that people including myself don't like
photos being taken right but you know in 10 years’ time when you
look back you are going to think you're pretty, so you've just wasted 10 years thinking
that you're ugly or unlovable when in fact you are
beautiful and you can see the beauty looking behind so I let people take photos of me now
because I also know in 10 years’ time if I still
feel that way about myself at times which I do then I just remind myself now in 10
years’ time I'm going to love I'm going to look back and see the beauty that everyone else saw
so yeah that's something that I live by
to now so that if it happens because some sometimes it does and sometimes it
does not yes and I'm glad you brought that up
that sometime it might work sometimes something that a thought
process or a technique might work and a situation today and then maybe
tomorrow or in a week that you or I try to utilize that same technique and maybe
it does not and I think that is where just having as many tools
you are and ideas and ways to kind of work through, so you are not just working
through one thought or one idea you're working through many different thoughts and ideas before you kind of reach
that that bottom part versus before it's like oh I'm going straight there and I
how am I going to get out yeah which is some of the things in my
book helps to so show you how to see
helps you to look at your own life at yourself and what's in your life so that you
can see all the positives because we don't tend to see the positives we tend to see the negatives and sort of hang on
to them and dwell on them but if you can see the good things in
yourself the good things that you have in life then you will see more positives around
you so the steps in my in my book I've tried to
make them as you know in some sort of logical way so that each is a step
towards not this backwards points which is what when I went through counseling I
had all these techniques and you know I would talk about it but it
just didn't seem to be hope it just didn't seem to hold
but with this technique and with my technique and with my the layout of my
book and the uniqueness of it it's being a self-help a self-improvement book with
with a workbook and it's incorporating my it it's incredible my life
experiences in a way that you just wouldn't expect
through a self-improvement book and that's you know some people have told me it's just uniquely written so I know
that for sure that there's no book out there that that has been written in this
way at the self-help as a self-improvement book
so yeah, it I find that when I when I
follow them myself as much as I've made them up in my head these are the things
that I've taken from years of counseling as well as
as well as myself ex my self-experience in life and just understanding some of
the things that I went through so the documents that I've suggested in my
book they're all on my wall so I can remind myself of these things
and like the things about myself and the things that are in my life
that I remind myself of these things um
and I have you know there is a unique treatment plan that I talk about in my
book as well yes absolutely I am just checking out
from your first version that they have the we’re talking about positives about myself so
you're not just talking about here go do these things and these will
make you miraculously better you are going through that process while you're writing the book of
I'm not just telling you to you know oh go and break right down 10 things
that you feel that are positive about you or about your day and I'm just going
to read a few for our for our listeners for our viewers to get this for search engine and optimization and
for people to really see in in here so you know I am kind I love how I can
write good poetry I help others when they need it that says nothing about money that just says
I help others when they need it so I just want to throw that I am beautiful
I am worth being loved I am valuable I am amazing I am friendly I am outgoing I
have patience with others to name just a just a few
and I think that that's awesome that you added that and you went through that
process it it's not just being the teacher but you're being the student too
you're kind of bringing all that together we just have a few minutes left so I
I wanted to ask because I I'm starting to have more of an appreciation for
our and not like Picasso and those well I do like checking out a museum
time to time if I can but just any type of art any type of expression of an
experience of a thing of a point in time you do put some art work
pieces in your book how important was and is just in in your life
and how what type of an impact do you think that's made on you being where
you're at today and maybe that being a tool that you use
yes, okay I find that the most emotional part of my journey
in expressing myself my pole tricks started when I was
in here for 1984. and I'm still writing poetry
and I was it was a way of expressing myself
now I'm a bit more creative in the way I write my poetry so that's another
another Journey that I've gone through the drawings
my drawings um
they express what I went through they there is one called yesterday's
tears there is another one [Music]
waiting to be rescued there is a few positive ones in there
that I have stuck in there there's another one called survived where I've got
put the depiction of a heart having been stabbed and shot at and sliced and
chopped up but the fact is that I'm still here I'm
still here I survived all of that and another one is putting my hat in a
box trying to protect it from everything I don't want to get hurt anymore but I
realize when I do that I also leave out and shut out all the good things in my
life as well all the good people want to help me with, I'm saying no
no I don't need that I can do it myself I realized I was shouting out
everything not just the bad stuff but the good stuff as well oh yeah that's
so most of mine has been drawing but other people might have other
forms of creating their own Expressions
yeah, there's no limit to that but you have my drawings are quite
powerful and meaningful and meant something to me when I was going through
something like I was feeling something Intense or sad
yeah so I encourage people to do some of that sort of stuff as well
yeah I I'm even different today than when
we've chatted in the past just blown away by how in detail how all your
emotions are and I know you're doing that for yourself but
you are also that's who you are as an individual and I know that that is part
of helping others because seeing somebody and it's kind of tough to think about it
you know seeing somebody in a vulnerable stay seeing you know somebody anybody but like myself in a state of being in a
situation like I wonder what he's going to do like he's upset it really
gives people a learning opportunity to go through and to know that like
that is okay if drawing and art is a way of expression it's okay if writing
is a way of an expression it's okay if music is whatever
yeah thing or things that somebody likes that likes to do or is drawn to it's
okay don't have somebody tell you it's not and you know battling kind of
those internal dialogues is tough but that's one thing that I found that
if I whether if I need some time just to decompress from answering emails or social media or that
list goes on then I just do it and so for you to go through so
many different methods and ways you go you go through lists you go through specific experiences and paragraph form
you go through the actual art the drawings and the meaning you go
through the cover and the meaning of why yellow or gold or why there's a
spider web because there's dragonflies I
I just want to thank you for being so just being yourself
you know there's words that can be said but just being yourself into sharing
and it's that's a gift that not many people have and when you
have it I am glad that you are spending your days and
working and doing things like this because I know it's going to help it has and it's
and by seeing how many followers how many people are checking your LinkedIn
just for an example and then being asked to be on you know different podcasts and different media
Outlets that that that's awesome and
I just want to again just thank you for being just
so much your yourself just being authentic just being you're just humanizing what a human goes through in
life the ups the Downs and finding ways to kind of work through it and saying okay well
I'm going to try this way and you know what I have a pension for being a good
writer so maybe let me let me try this vehicle and I've said it many times
and I'll say it again that you're writing and your experience and US chatting kind of at the outset before
Voices for Voices started as an organization what was a lot had a lot to do with
just continuing on to wanting to do something more than just a once a year of that
which it's awesome it's amazing you were part of the inaugural
a brand-new day event and yeah
yeah and it's and I'm just blown away by
the support and just people finding an interest of is hoping and bringing
people from across the world that I'm in the state of Ohio and the United States
of America and here in the country of Australia and we're having a
conversation about real topics and so you're not just
helping people as you know in in your Homeland you're helping and are
going to continue to help people across the world so I hope that that
that makes you feel good inside lastly how can people find out about you
find out about your what you're up to learn more about you follow you how can
they do that okay I'm on LinkedIn as
Alison Rose Clark yep there's Alison Rose Clark
and you can follow me on Facebook as
I don't hate me anymore Alison Rose Clark author it's a really long one but
you can also find me on or you can also purchase my book from
Smashwords which is something that I've just recently been able to
due to last year being such a mental health
it's that I've got it on I've got it on Smashwords now so the other bits are
still working on my website is allisonroseclark.com.edu
yeah you can put from my from my website as well
however International may be a little bit difficult during costs but yes the
e-books available for those people who want it yeah
thank you thank you for that for sharing the information I will add that
in the in the podcast notes so that'll be shared with everybody
that checks us out no matter which way they do so Allison thank you
so much for being with us on the Voices for Voices podcast I wish you
nothing but success and happiness and health and whatever that looks like for you just
thank you for the impact you've had on me and my life and with voices
for voices and I know we'll be in contact in the future
awesome yeah just before we leave, I just want to say
that even though my book was originally for women between 30 and 50.
I've actually had a lot of men a lot of men really including yourself yeah so
it's not just for anyone but I mean not just for women right for everyone
get that backwards all right well thank you for thank you
for joining us and I hope everybody checks you out checks your book
out follows you is Allison's a great
great person who's taken a lot of time to be with us today and we love
chatting with her thank you for joining us for this episode of the voices for
voices podcast thank you also to Our Guest Allison Rose
Clark for spending some time with us from her home in Australia
until next time I am Justin Alan Hayes founder and executive director of voices
for voices host and humanitarian until next time have a momentous day and be a
voice for yourself or somebody in need [Music] [Applause]
[Music] thank you.
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